jazluvr wrote:Mele20, do you know if opera maintains a connection to a server, or is is similar to Iron, where we have to manually update anything (which i like.) I have been visiting their forums as well, but i see quite a few complaints compared to this forum, which has almost none, mostly just people asking how to do something.
Also, that's my biggest gripe about Iron, why did they remove the ask me feature? Are they under pressure from google or something? I don't understand why they don't listen to their userbase. They don't even answer our questions unless we press them.
Opera updates can be done manually or you can wait for the update to be released to the internal updater and then depending on how you have Opera configured, it will update automatically or it will simply notify you of an available update. So, you can set Opera in preferences to NEVER update, or even tell you there is an update available, and you do it all on your own, or you can let Opera tell you when an update is available internally. Opera has messed up with recent versions in that the devs decided to have a checkmark automatically placed in the box when you go to update internally that says something like "from now on update automatically without asking me first". That pis**d a lot of us off as Opera traditionally never had that box checked and if you wanted to get automatic updates internally you had to "opt in" by checking the box and you could change your mind at any time and uncheck the box.
Now, it is the opposite and you have to remember to either uncheck that box before you update or, after updating Opera, go to preferences and uncheck it there. But what really made us mad was that on the next update Opera would have that box REchecked. In other words, overriding the user's preference and the user had to remember before each internal update to remove that checkmark or do so right after the update in Preferences. So, I was quite gratified to see that with the last Opera update to 11.01, that the "automatically update" box was no longer checked by default. So, I think the devs heard the anger and went back to the way it always was before. But I use XP Pro. I read in their forums that someone on Win 7 said the box is still checked by default and they had to remember to uncheck it. Well, I have updated a second time and the box was NOT checked by default so I still think Opera listened and fixed it but maybe didn't get it fixed right for Win 7 or the person complaining had some other problem.
(I would never use a browser, or any software, that insisted on updating automatically and did not let me opt out of that). But all that about whether that box is automatically checked and you have to uncheck it, etc. is MOOT as long as you simply set Opera in \Preferences to NEVER check for updates. Opera honors that setting always and never tampers with it. I like the in between setting where Opera notifies me of an update but does nothing else unless I give it permission because I like to wait for an update to be released to internal updating. Why? Because Opera has a tendency to release updates on its website that you can manually get and then later withdraw the update because of some problem. I think they use that release to the website (but not an internal release yet) as a way of vetting the release. So, if you wait for internal release you can be sure it is a stable, good release. But you can still do it manually, just don't download and install the day Opera releases it their webpage. Wait awhile.
Google removed the Ask me from how cookies are handled not SRWare. SRWare evidently doesn't want to have to write code to put it back for us. That says to me that SRWare is not serious about Iron and I am giving up on it.
You might want to go to dslreports and do a search on Iron browser. Search back at least six months. Not the current thread in Software forum on Iron but earlier.
As for complaints at Opera forums, Opera users are passionate and Opera is soooo configurable that there will always be a lot of complaints and questions. It has problems, but every browser out there has problems. I think one has to decide which set of problems one is most comfortable living with, and dealing with, and that will vary from person to person. Opera is the opposite of Chrome/Iron in that it is the most configurable browser ever created, whereas, Chrome/Iron is lacking in this regard. I though Fx was configurable but actually it has lots of extensions but lacks configurability itself. Opera has just started with extensions but has tremendous configurability...things that are so hidden you can use Opera for years and not know all the ways you can configure it.