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Iron Release Cycle (proposed)

Postby z25blink » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:11 am

Last months, Iron was released in a hurry, with no schedule plan

Iron --- 3.0.197.0 stable --- 4.0.227.0 beta --- 4.0.275.2 rc --- 4.0.280.0 stable --- 5.0.326.0 alpha

My suggestion .... for clear Iron release plan.... independent on Google Chrome releasing ! .....

For schedule we can take Iron 4.0.280.0 stable as an initial point :lol:

With number of version "280" .... go to

..... Iron 5.0.380.0 beta
..... Iron 5.0.480.0 stable

With minor releases among beta and stable (for exmaple once a month)

Chromium 5.0.370.0 (as of 7th April 2010) .... so beta 380 could be in 2 weeks or so
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Re: Iron Release Cycle (proposed)

Postby bksening » Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:08 pm

But how can Iron be released independent on Google Chrome releasing?

The whole fact of the matter is that Iron is totally and entirely dependent on Chrome releases. All of Iron's crucial "new" features and functions are all Chrome features. Iron only gets these functions based on pulling updated code from Chromium source code.

I suppose the only independent releasing Iron can do is try to fully debug and release these features faster than Chrome? After all, that's why all these "new" features are still in Dev and Beta testing for Chrome. If the features had all their problems resolved, the next Chrome Stable version would already be released.

z25blink, are you suggesting to pull latest Chromium source code and release development and testing functions as official Iron features to make Iron independent from Chrome? Again, I see that as impossible as all of Iron's most important code is entirely dependent on what it gets from Chromium.
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Re: Iron Release Cycle (proposed)

Postby z25blink » Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:48 pm

bksening wrote:But how can Iron be released independent on Google Chrome releasing?
The whole fact of the matter is that Iron is totally and entirely dependent on Chrome releases..


NO,

Absolutelly nonsense .... SRWare Iron .... isnt realy on Google at all. ;)

Iron is (opensource browser) based originally on core of Chromium (opensource browser).

Google is only addition some its bad features to its Google Chrome.

Iron is not relied on Google.

... Google is shitting :evil: proprietary company :!: :x .... Go away!, evil Google, :twisted: go away! ... :x
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Re: Iron Release Cycle (proposed)

Postby bksening » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:29 pm

My goodness z25blink, you are so paranoid about Google, you did not even bother to read or think about what I wrote! :lol:

Let me be a little more clear, and you will see that Iron is most definitely dependent on Google Chrome, or at least Chromium.

Again, all of Iron's crucial "new" features and functions are all Chromium features. Iron only gets these functions based on pulling updated code from Chromium source code. So far virtually all, >99% of these features and functionality are developed by Google developers. If Iron wants these features, they are entirely dependent on when the Google devs finish these features. I believe this is true, unless any Iron devs have contributed to the Chromium project and I would be interested to see the commit logs/entries if there are any.

So again, I suppose the only independent releasing Iron can do is try to fully debug and release these features faster than Google releases Chrome? After all, that's why all these "new" features are still in Dev and Beta testing even for Chromium. And whether these features are eventually finished and deployed is entirely dependent on Google devs. (Again, unless Iron chooses to release these dev functions as Iron features.)

So z25blink, although you are correct that Iron is based on open-source Chromium, 90% of Iron is dependent on 99% of Chromium, which is 99% dependent on Google developers. I find it absolutely ridiculous that you think much of what is available in Iron could be possible without Chromium and the Google devs. And further I cannot see how Iron can think to make releases without depending on what Google devs have developed into Chromium.
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Re: Iron Release Cycle (proposed)

Postby z25blink » Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:01 am

Iron is build on Chromium source.
:ironvsff
Chromium´s developers are not Google employeed developers,

but are an independent ones .... just "free devs"

Of course, some of them are emploeys of Google, but surely not 99 %. ... It is Open Community.
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Re: Iron Release Cycle (proposed)

Postby bksening » Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:29 pm

z25blink wrote:Chromium´s developers are not Google employeed developers .... Of course, some of them are emploeys of Google, but surely not 99 %.

That, z25blink, is where you are totally wrong.

Yes, the Chromium open-source project welcomes all free developers, but so far most definitely >99% of all development work is committed by Google employees with @chromium.org addresses. Just check the Chromium commit logs for the most recently released Chrome Dev version: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/perf ... &mode=html
(or change the SVN source ranges to check any range).

Sure, even the external contributor patches are checked in by Google employees (with comments like original patch by "yyyy"), but they are very, very, very few. Yes, I'm sure I am correct that so far >99% of all Chromium development is by Google employees.
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Re: Iron Release Cycle (proposed)

Postby z25blink » Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:48 pm

Only thing what matters is SRWare Iron release Beta in few days. ;)
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Re: Iron Release Cycle (proposed)

Postby z25blink » Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:10 pm

testing new emoticon by LiKeLighT viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1088#p4404

Chromium 5.376.0
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Re: Iron Release Cycle (proposed)

Postby SRWare » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:57 pm

News:
We are currently testing Chromium 5.0.370-376 Builds for the upcoming Iron-version.
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Re: Iron Release Cycle (proposed)

Postby Udy » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:54 pm

SRWare wrote:News:
We are currently testing Chromium 5.0.370-376 Builds for the upcoming Iron-version.


Changelog plz.
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